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this conversation about entitlements, medicare, social security was not really part of the conversation at the white house. is that true, and are you concerned? >> we join together in making the case in a paid ad and then doing briefs for action. as a group, we said the priorities would be to reform taxes and invest in job creation, and the cuts to medicare, medicaid and social security occurred last summer to the tune of 1.7 trillion dollars. now's the time to imagine how we grow the economy, to help feed the economic recovery, and that growth will help reduce the debt. the conversation with the president was about that bigger frame, and how we think about it. and then imagining the suffering that everybody is seeing all across this country, how can we restore the american middle class if we continue to cut programs that support people staying either in the middle class or not falling from it. >> do you believe some form of entitlement reform has to be part of a "grand bargain," a large down payment of paying down the debt? >> i reject the notion of entitlement. i think these are guaranteed social
should listen to this guy. >> we want to engage in entitlement reform. medicare, medicaid, these are chief drivers of the deficit. there's other spending we have to cut. >> hold on a second. i think that we all know what the chief drivers of our deficit are and have been. our projected deficit has driven by the wars and the bush tax cuts. entitlement programs don't even compete with these costs. plouffe went on to pin the problem largely on republicans who are not flexible, but he also said this. >> where the big bottleneck is republicans in congress around revenue and how much and where does it come from, democrats are going to have to step up and do some tough things. and the notion that somehow that these deficits and our debt are not a threat to our national security on our economic future is something i cannot disagree with more strongly. there are some commentators on the left that suggest that. that we shouldn't deal with that at all. >> voices on the left are not saying the deficit is not a problem for our future. progressives understand we need to deal with our de
have heard a lot of people say over the course of the campaign people love medicare but an expert said today a lot of that is because for every dollar you put in most members get $3 back and that is unsustainable. when you start talking about entitlement reform, a lost groups and seniors get upset. >>shepard: there is a move problem, but don't mess with my math. where do the lawmakers stand? >>reporter: coburn told me, who you heard a moment ago, he could cut $600 billion out of the federal government and almost no one would notice. some democrats, they seem to think this could be some savings had at the pentagon. >> there isn't anyone left right or center who wants to compromise america's national defense but to believe that having ended one war in iraq and ending another in afghanistan and reassessing our role in the world we cannot find savings in the pentagon is not affair assessment. >>reporter: i have heard that from others, as well, after two wars, after the great expansion of our military over the two wars, there could be some savings to be had but at this point a lot of discus
for one from stouffer's. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now. o0 c1 hello. it's water from the drinking fountain at the mall. great tasting water can come from any faucet anywhere. the brita bottle with the filter insid
cutting medicare and medicaid benefits. president obama is seeking $1.6 trillion in additional revenue over ten years and $340 billion in health care savings. the time says the deal would not affect benefits. that's the keyword, benefits. the president and some democrats in the congress are willing to squeeze savings from medicare by trimming payments to drug companies, hospitals and other health care providers. they are ruling out structural changes that would increase costs for a typical beneficiary. this is what it's all about. the money. who is going to get it? senator dick durbin. a little more specific today. he said progressives, that would be you and me, should be willing to talk about ways to ensure the long-term viability of medicare and medicaid but those conversations should not be part of a plan to avert the fiscal cliff. democrats are prepared to discuss reforms to medicare and medicaid, but not right now. fox news tried to get budget committee chair member congressman chris van hollen to agree to the changes. van hollen stood firm. >> if you prolong the program, people a
something happening on the other side. you want to see the spending cuts take place. medicare is going up. my wife just got a note in the mail from the insurance provider, her health care is going up 15.1 percent after blue cross in california because they have a monopoly in california. we are told obamacare would lessen everything but it is going up for everyone. >>neil: but you would compromise on this if you got the spending cuts? >>guest: if you got the spending cuts, but you don't do anything until the hit the spending cuts, they owe my dollar $3 in spending cuts and george bush they owe him $2 spending cuts. i tell the republicans, if you buy into raising taxes first you will be like ronald reagan and george public, you will wait a lifetime. they will not happen. >>neil: will you be penalized in the next election? >>guest: absolutely. and you wonder where are the conservatives standing up? >>neil: why are so many more americans involved with stunning new developments that are related to this recovery. that is ahead. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligatio
"your business" sunday mornings at 7:30 on msnbc. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare... now's a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan that really meets your needs? and your budget? as you probably know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs every year. call today to request a free decision guide. with this type of plan, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a specialist. if you're thinking about your options, call today. when you call, request your free decision guide. and find the aarp medicare supplement plan that may be right for you. o0 ci had[ designer ]eeling enough of just covering up my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i deci
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medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral to see a specialist. so don't wait. call now and request this free decision guide to help you better understand medicare... and which aarp medicare supplement plan might be best for you. there's a wide range to choose from. we love to travel -- and there's so much more
? as you probably know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs every year. call today to request a free decision guide. with this type of plan, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a specialist. if you're thinking about your options, call today. when you call, request your free decision guide. and find the aarp medicare supplement plan that may be right for you. >>> welcome back. thousands of protestors are rallying for a sixth day in tahrir square and bigger protests for friday. they continue to demand na egypt's new president revoke the decree issued last thursday giving himself near absolute power. another protestor died today in a clash with police. he's the third person killed
reform from medicare. martha, i have to tell you. i got new numbers from medicare, from trustees, actually. medicare has to pay out in the future $42 trillion. that is money which it does not now have. so you can see that this is very serious issue. cuts in spending, cuts to medicare. who will make them? it is very serious because what that kind of money outstanding you need some kind of an agreement and fast. the bottom line right now, martha, it is again an impasse. martha: that's a huge number, stuart. it was about 38 trillion just less than a year ago i believe. >> yes. martha: so that number has really ballooned to 42 trillion as stuart shares with us in terms of those numbers. let's go back to the republican side for just a moment because i think there is a discrepancy in terms of the understanding what republicans seem to be agreeing to do. there is difference between raising tax rates which they have said they will not do. so i don't see any ground being ceded on the raising of tax rates for the wealthy but the changing of loopholes that would indeed, would that produce r
of medicare and medicaid. >> there's a right way to do this and there's a wrong way to do it. but at the end of the day, nancy what's got to happen is whoever's right or wrong here we've got to get the economy going again. >> reporter: chambliss and virginia democrat mark warner head up the senate's gang of eight-- four democrats and four remembers who have worked for two and a half years to find a bipartisan approach to debt reduction. do you think your democratic colleagues are going to be willing to entertain discussion of social security reform, medicare reform as part of this deal? >> listen, i think anyone that looks at our entitlements, medicare, social security, other programs, they're great programs. but the math just doesn't work anymore. not because the programs are bad but because thank goodness we're living a lot longer than we were when these programs were established. >> reporter: republicans may be more open now to raising tax revenue, but that doesn't mean they support raising tax rates for the wealthy. they support instead, scott, limiting tax deductions for the rich. >> pe
medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now. [ man thinking ] oh, this gas. those antacids aren't working. oh no, not that, not here! [ male announcer ] antacids don't relieve gas. gas-x is designed to relieve gas. gas-x. the gas xperts. >>> what do you do when they're screaming for entitlement
medicare and medicaid, we're talking about people's lives and health care. this is part of the reason why the president doesn't want social security to be part of it. why folk on the left are still angry that something like medicare or medicaid are sort of used as false equivalencies with tax increases. we have to think about people's real lives and health care really addresses those issues versus wealthy folk paying a little more. >> david, if that's the case, if professor peterson is right, why then did the president when he was in the process of negotiating a grand bargain with speaker boehner, agree to suggest or even imply that, for example, the age of qualification for certain of these entitlements would go up? >> the president has decided that the way to deal with this overall, i'm not saying this is right or wrong, is that we have divided government which means we're going to try to take care of the deficit and the tax cut and also the debt ceiling issue all at once. he tried to do that two summers ago and came close and he felt you had to give up something in terms of -- not soci
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entitlement programs like social security and medicare. democrats aren't on board yet. >> my concern about raising that medicare retirement age is there will be gaps in coverage or coverage that's way too expensive for seniors to purchase. >> reporter: and with the fiscal cliff looming, white house economists are warning shoppers concerned about a tax increase pay not spend as much this holiday season. danielle -- nottingham, cbs news. >>> investors are worried the strong start to the holiday shopping season may not last. right now, let's take a look at the dow. it's down nearly 60 points at this hour. >>> something that might help those numbers on wall street, cyber monday. it's expected to be the biggest online shopping day of the year. one data tracking firm predicts online sales will reach a billion and a half dollars today. today. >>> online retailers have made great strides in making it very easy for people to return things. paste-on shipping labels and free shipping, oftentimes free returns and so that has something to do with the increase in online shopping. >> big box stores are
is that democratcriticizepaul ryan for the premium support plan for medicare reform. the obamacare exchanges whi apply to people who are a low-middle income also is a premium support plan. so democrats have an argument against applying the obamacare racing just medicare? and mean, they like obamacare. what would be so terrible about migrating seniors into the obamacare exchange as a wayto reform medicare using a democratic approach. gerri: you're turning the law and set a little bit there. interesting florid for example , medicare and medicaid. very important. 27 percent of doctors are not accepting medicare patients right now. is that going to get better or worse? >> is going to get worse because the cost pressure and spending pressures of medicare, the politicians have cheated. when not going to reform the program to make it more efficient. eulogist pay doctors and hospitals less to cover this impatience. at a certain point doctors quit and house bills go broke. the medicare actuary says that 15 percent of all hospitals will go broke by the end of the decade because of these cuts. 30 percent by 2030. austral'
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that really meets your needs and your budget? as you probably know, medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they cover some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. call today to request a free decision guide to help you better understand medicare and which aarp medicare supplement plan works best for you. with this type of plan, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients... plus, there are no networks, and you'll never need a referral to see a specialist. there's a range of plans to choose from, too. and they all travel with you. anywhere in the country. join the millions who have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement plans endorsed by aarp, an oanization serving the needs of people 50 and over for generations... and provided by unitedhealthcare insurance company, which has over 30 years of experience behind
for us to talk abo about. we cannot stand by the sidelines in denial untouched, unamended, medicare is going to run out of money in 12 years. that is scary. >> but it's what durbin didn't say that was striking. in his prepared remarks durbin was going to say the following. quote, progressives should be willing to talk about ways to ensure the long-term viability of social security, medicare and medicaid, but those conversations should not be part of a plan to avert the fiscal cliff. durbin never said those remarks. he left that out. he later said he stood by those comments, and he did argue that medicare shouldn't be part of any up front down payment on the debt but part of the next year's long longer term negotiation. now while the short term talk to republicans may be tough, the longer term message to liberals is clear. entitlements in some form or fashion will need to be on the table. that means medicare. and a new "washington post"/abc poll shows just how politically tough making any changes to medicare will be. across party lines respondents said they are opposed to increasing
. this is the pursuit of perfection. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral to see a specialist. so don't wait. call now and request this free decision guide to help you better understand medicare... and which aarp medicare supplement plan might be best for
of the budget which is all of those programs starting with medicare and medicaid. you can't get out of it without dealing with those, a and bowles is absolutely right. gerri: long way to go. thanks for coming on. appreciate your time. >> sure. thank you. gerri: as a reminder, the revenue from the bush tax cuts would generate just $82.4 billion a year, enough to run the government for five days. as president obama pushes for tax hikes on wealthier americans, he might look to britain to see the effect it has. it's not revenues. it's surprisingly less. after the labour party, that is, there, pushed for the top tax rate to 50%, 5-0, the richest left. two-thirds left to avoid paying the new tax. it also stopped people coming to and investing in britain. there's a lesson for you. turns out the proof is in the pudding realizing the errors of the way, the government is cutting the top rate to 45%. more to come like should washington sub di size wind energy? more on the fiscal cliff as americans on all levels have to prepare to take the tax hit. i hope it doesn't, but i'm going to break it d
fall under simpson-bowles just in the year 2015, starting with drug rebates under medicare part d. that money would come from the drug companies themselves, likely $6 billion just in the year of 2015. a change in inflation measure, that means that beneficiaries of medicare and medicaid might get less money going forward. that's $3 billion. cuts in farm subsidies, that's big. those guys would lose $3 billion that year. eliminating the in-school interest subsidy for student loans. that's a popular one for those folks who have taken out student loans but who are still in school. that would be a big hit, again, to those people taking student loans. clearly, there are going to be some unpopular political choices here. there's a lot of stuff that's very unpopular politically already in the simpson-bowles plan, which is what a lot of people here in washington are talking about as a starting point. don't forget, there's another very difficult conversation still to come, guys. >> no doubt, eamon. thanks so much. meantime t our next guest is one of the fix the debt ceos and wants more focus
for seniors. guest: first, the $716 billion worth of cuts from medicare. senior citizens, they like to say they have paid into the system all in their adult life. but the fact is, you cut $716 billion out of medicare, you add a 30 million new customers, you have 10,000 baby boomers retire in daily. the numbers do add up. i think senior is backedin 2009, senior citizens were opposed to the bill back then. people were talking about who had read it and who had not read it. the speaker of the house of the times said, we have to pass it to see what is in it. i think seniors were the only ones to read it. this of the cuts on the horizon. i think we're going to start seeing rationing if we are not already. host: in a news release put out by the 60 plus association after the election, you are quoted as saying -- talk to me about the plans. what is it you want to do in the days of the lame-duck part of congress. is there anything you can do? will you be lobbying members of congress, some of whom may not of backedin january? guest: besides health care, you touched on a couple of things. energy indep
. medicare is in more immediate danger. we want to save these programs and i understand the dilemma that the president and thethey don't want to change anything. well, times change. and until we make sure these popular entitlement programs fit the demographics of the changingit's simple math. what we have lacked so far is the political courage to do what needs to be done. look, i'm not happy about divided government. i would rather have a republican president, republican senate and republic house. good things about divided government, it's the best time to do really hard stuff and i'll give you four good examples. did the comprehensive tax reform. clinton, welfare reform and balanced the budget for multiple years in the late 1990's. this is the perfect time to solve single biggest problem confronting our country and we are anxious to sit down and get the job done. \[inaudible question] >> dick durbin says as talks continue on of this booklet democrats must be open to painful topics, including medicare and medicaid. he was at the center for american progress for about 45 minutes. >>
taxes. is it equally difficult to get democrats to agree to touch medicare? >> not when you have the president say he's going to do it. he said it during the grand bargain that didn't become too grand or a bargain, but he talked about entitlement reform and he's still talking about entitlement reform. he will do something in that area, as long as he can hammer those guys over $250,000. and make them pay more taxes. how $250,000 got to the point where that's the, quote, middle class is beyond my comprehens n comprehension. 100 would have been more appropriate for more real live people. he's going to get that. hopefully he can do it without doing rate increases, which are going to cost. anybody who is, quote, rich shouldn't mind paying more taxes. i don't understand that at all. and i don't understand that somebody, if you let them earn more money is going to use it to hire people. they may likely buy another kind of rig or a toy or something like that. i don't know. but all i know is one thing, you can't cut -- you can't cut spending away out of this hole, you can't tax your way
. there going to have to show some kind of movement on medicare. either an increase in net the age, 67, 68, 69, or maybe make it means tested. democrats don't like means tested because they're afraid that will undercut, eventually that will undercut all of medicaid. going to have to have some reductions in medicare, medicaid. and you will have to do something about social security. if you don't do that i don't see how you have accomplished anything. tom: mr. mayor, you know that there is a lot of republicans that are saying i want smaller government, less spending, and tanana reform. don't take my check away from me >> but they have to face reelection in two years. you can read too much into this election. this was not a mandate. this was a popular vote to% election, even electoral votes when he looked at the states, separated by 2%, 3%, 4%. this was not some kind of major reelection when like reagan had, like even clinton had. clinton might think, won by 8%, reagan nine, ten, 11%. there is no real mandate here. so i can't see the republicans getting too overwhelmed by these ads. the president
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there will be big cuts to the pentagon but not likewise cuts to medicare and other big entitlement programs and they believe that is another part. on the tax issue the republicans are playing defense. if they don't act the white house is ready to blame this on them in terms of going off the cliff. after coming out of the election where the republicans nuclear a hit the white house hopes they will not want to take another big blow after the election so quickly. >>shepard: powerball sales are skyrocketing, upping the jackpot and the odds someone will win the big surprise tonight. it is at $550 million. that is a record for powerball. the odds are slim of swinging, 1 in 75 million but zero chance if you don't buy. people are dreaming. >> i felt my whole life i was supposed to be rip. >> pay the bills and house off. not have to work. ever again. >> i have 17 charities first. they come first. >> i want to buy a house. >> how will you spend it? >> take a day off. >> officials say this is a 75 percent chance now that someone or multiple somebodies will win tonight. rick is on long island, new york
long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male aouncer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. to me, relationships matter. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. [ male announcer ] with these types of plans, you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral to see a specialist. so don't wait. call now and request this free decision guide to help you better understand medicare... and which aarp medicare supplement plan might be best for you. there's a wide range to choose from. w
in terms of the baby boomers getting older, which is social security and medicare, and then this new entitlement coming with the president's health care law. we know it is unworkable as a health care law. i can tell you as a doctor. it is unaffordable as a nation. that has to be part of the discussion as well. melissa: what about this idea that senate democrats are trying to limit the filibuster rule? you know, do you think that is a good idea? do you support that? do you think it would come back to bite them later on? >> well i oppose the idea that senator reid is proposing. i think it is a mistake to limit the rights of people who elected me and others to have the right to offer amendments and to have unlimited debate on the senate floor. you know, it is interesting when president obama was a senator and republicans were thinking about using this, he said, oh, no, it is terrible, it would destroy the institution and would hurt the country. same thing when senator biden was a senator spoke against it. when harry reid was in the minority he was against it. now they're in the majority
and medicare combined. but we are talking about illegal immigrants that are given food stamps and they are not entitled to medicaid or medicare or social security. it is a food stamp program and set up with whether mexico is pulling up their fair share. >> and john, you go to the web site. anybody can go to the web site. welcome to america web site this is it just a page from it government ben fets and welcome to america here are the benefits and here are the freebeies. and depending on your immigration status and length of time in the u.s., you may be eligible for federal benefit programs and it goes through a long lit any and it is long and a lot of money. >> it is unfortunate. immigrants are treasures the arrival of each one makes us more american because it signifies. >> if they are here to work. >> absolutely. it is it the last thing you want to do is offer them hand out to come here. that insures that you get a lower quality person coming here. we want to attract those who want to come here and achieve. >> steve, that is it the problem. i would say the overwhelming numbe
. and two entitlement reform that means getting rid of social security and medicare and making at it voucher program, which mitt romney and paul ryan supported and the american people rejected. so don't fall for this republican line of baloney that they have suddenly seen -- gotten religion when it comes to new revenue. the only solution is an balanced report which includes spending cuts and new revenue and not just closing loopholes. it's not just closing loopholes. it has got to include raising taxes on the wealthiest 1%. let's talk about it 866-55-press. 866-557-7377. i hope i'm not alone among the media who will say these republicans are just trying to con the americans one more time and stick to the old mitt romney plan which the american people rejected on november 6th. don't fall for it. 866-55-press. let's talk about it. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay
it for the country, but only if democrats are willing to make reforms on entitledment programs, medicare and medicaid and social security. that is big if. good morning, hope your turkey was great. martha: good morning, everybody, i'm martha maccallum. you've got this. congressman peter king and now senator bob corker say they will ignore the decades old pledge that was signed by 241 house members and senators. he says he believes it is a huge game-changer. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt the only pledge we should make to each other is to avoid becoming greece. republicans should put revenue on the table. we're this far in debt. we don't generate enough revenue. capping deductions will help generate revenue. raising tack rates will hurt job creation. bill: this is the heart of the matter. stuart varney, host of "varney & company". morning to you, sir? >> this is a real shift. one of the two sides had some movement in their position on the tax side of the debate. that side is the republican side. as you heard there from senator lindsey graham, other, and other republican, they are now prepared to a
is not raising taxes. what will make us greece is not fixing medicare, medicaid and social security. jon: white house press secretary jay carney says president obama will not give on extending current tax rates on wealthy americans. on entitlements carney says the president is open to changes except when it comes to social security. >> the president has long made clear that he is open to discussions about strengthening social security as part of a separate track. jon: so is the u.s. economy heading for a plunge over the fiscal cliff? with us now, associate editor and columnist for "the hill", a.b. stoddard. so what are the folks that you cover there on capitol hill, what are they saying about the prospects here? >> well, in the last 10 days it starts to sound more and more like democrats don't really have a problem with going over the slope or the cliff. they won't really admit that but it seems that they're not working so hard to stop it. you see the white house trying to tell americans that there is going to be such a steep tax increase on the middle class that it could affect consumer spendi
the fiscal cliff contain no medicare, medicaid, and social security benefit cuts. it puts them at odds with the president who has said everything should be on the table, including entitlements, senate republican leader mitch mcconnell. >> we want to save these programs and i understand the dilemma the president and the majority leader have. their hard left doesn't want to change anything ever. >> reporter: but the top senate democrat harry reid says republicans are the ones dragging their heels. there's been little progress with the republicans, which is a disappointment to me. they've talked some happy talk about doing revenues, but we only have a couple weeks to get something done. >> reporter: republicans point out that medicare and medicaid are the largest future drivers of the debt. they say they won't agree to increased revenue from taxes unless they get entitlement cuts as well. scott, it's safe to say there are going to be people on the right and left howling mad at no matter what this deal looks like. >> pelley: nancy, thank you very much. one idea they're looking at is scalin
medicare and... social security are just numbers in a budget. well, we worked hard for those benefits. we earned them. and if washington tries to cram decisions about the future... of these programs into a last minute budget deal... we'll all pay the price. aarp is fighting to protect seniors with responsible... solutions that strengthen medicare and... social security for generations to come. we can do better than a last minute deal... that would hurt all of us. >>> cue the drum roll please, a top republican is trying to put distance between the gop and tax master grover norquist. at a closed-door meeting yesterday congressman tom cole urged his colleagues to get in line behind president obama and vote to extend only the bush tax cuts for middle income earners. such a move could lead to the expiration for the bush tax cuts for the top 2%. before the norquist spirit chasers could reach him, cole clarified today republicans could live to fight for lower rates another day. >> in my view, we all agree that we're not going to raise taxes on people that make less than $250,000. we should just
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a speech yesterday about the entitlement aspect. medicare, medicaid. the entitlement aspect and basically said we don't want entitlements to be part of the immediate talks january 1st but think as democrats they should be part of longer terms talks for next year. i'm just wondering, is there a sense from the white house among democrats of what it is they're prepared to give in on on terms of entitlement? >> not enough to satisfy the republicans, this's for sure. they say up here they have seen nothing. unfortunately, the few people who are beginning to even talk about the need for eventual compromise like a tom cole, like a dick durbin are quickly getting smacked down here, particularly on the republican side. that congressman just got a spanking from john boehner in front of his caucus today so there's -- doesn't seem to be any movement in that direction. i was at a breakfast with bowles and simpson this morning and erskine bowles saying he think there is's a 1 in 3 chance of this working out before the fiscal cliff is reached on december 31st. he said he's not hearing enough in terms of
on the table we are not very serious. we know that medicare and social security are going to grow. >>neil: thank yous senator. normally, you know with every prominent guest i write them a thank you note and you just let me know, you don't like it, you don't --. >>guest: no, it is not that. i don't want you to take your time that you have to devote to and talking to grover norquist and all the other things. that is all. i do appreciate the opportunity of being on your show and i think you do a great job and you are a fund guy. >>neil: it is fun to cut out magazine letters circumstances. john mccain, senator, and former presidential candidate. thank you. go for the hikes, just keep your hands off entitlements, unions are sending that message to congress. is congress listening? republican senator rand paul says they better not listen to that. ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground s
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, let's be honest. they mean getting rid of medicare, getting rid of medicaid. >> structural reforms. >> bill: and privatizing social security. >> it was good to hear yesterday jay carney the white house press secretary, i don't know if you were there. taking social security off the table. it's not a problem. it hasn't contributed to the deficit. that's off the table. they're open to medicare. they've been open to changing provider payments which there is a lot of waste there. encouraging pharmacy companies to give medicare and medicaid better rates. those are all positive reforms. those are big savings. so we can take and find savings from the provider side. it is when you go after the beneficiaries that you run into problems but look, you know, romney ran an entire campaign hitting democrats for cutting $716 billion out of medicare. now they turn -- republicans backed that view we shouldn't touch medicare at all. now they turn around and say you have to cut medicare. it is as if the 716 debate we had for mo
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